Thursday, July 18, 2013

Who in the world is Lucy Van Pelt?

In a complaint filed in a New York state court, PETA said the unknown commenters posted their statements under various usernames, including "Lucy Van Pelt," "Eyema Nurde" and "ambersommerville." The group wants The Huffington Post to turn over the users’ addresses, email addresses, phone numbers, IP addresses, Internet service provider access records, account histories and user activity records.

Throughout history social movements have lead to the maturation of the country. A social movement thrives on the ability of a progressive community to capitalize on political opportunities and translates into social change. Philanthropic acts of financial giving, volunteer activity and a shared association of values is the vehicle that drives this change.

Smart, honest, committed leaders are invaluable to a movement, especially as the movement seeks to create new leaders to keep the movement rolling. Of utmost importance are charismatic leaders who can eloquently articulate people's concerns and inspire a positive emotional response.

Social movements face an uphill battle simply surviving. To achieve substantial and sustainable political change the movement requires honesty within its ranks. The no kill movement faces a myriad of challenges that focus on engaging the movement with a vision that all can agree on and effective tactics for bringing about that change.

However, organizations like No Kill Nation with leaders that are weak on tactical thinking, who have trouble focusing and researching a movement’s success and that attack those inside the movement who offer dissenting opinions is doomed for failure.

Some organizations fail simply because they engage in dishonest, disrupted or violent or abusive action in dealing with anticipated dissent. While on the surface this type of behavior attracts attention it also tends to alienate supporters who are not interested in a lack of honest transparency or the drama the attention also includes.

Further, new supporters who are attracted to the drama and personal agenda's further drive away the critical support that comes from more moderate or conservative supporters. 

This is why understanding who Lucy Van Pelt is critical to the survival of a shelter reform movement that deems itself "no kill".  So, who is this "Lucy Van Pelt?  Why not let Lucy tell us?

Lovely "Lucy" has become quite infamous posting hostile often times vile comments on many publications including her favorite the Huffington Post - as Huff Po as it is eloquently called.  The vile nature and "out of the blue" content she posts has many viewing Lucy as nothing more than a "serial stalker" relentless in attacking her prey.

My first encounter with Lucy was after seeing a post she had written on one of the No Kill Facebook pages.  Since some people may over react with first impressions I tried having a conversation with Lucy hoping to set her mind at ease.  She declined that offer and instead launched what can only be described as a vicious attack on someone who admittedly she did not know.

So, who is Lucy Van Pelt?  In a boasting comment to Pets Alive blogger John Sibley the ever boisterous Lucy Van Pelt tells us who she is - Maria Venuto.

Maria has a small circle of friends in the no kill circles as she attempts to navigate herself to a position of stature.  One such friend is No Kill Nation's Debi Day.

In this tweet with Debi Day's new alliance of ANONYMOUS hackers planning out her now infamous PeTa attack after the No Kill Conference in Washington DC No Kill Nation's leader acknowledges her friendship with serial stalker Maria Venuto.  Its not the friendship that is cause for concern but the vile nature of attack that Debi Day and Maria Venuto launched against those who dared oppose the sacred no kill mission.

Introducing Operation Mongoose - destroy any opposition

These next several shots come from conversations on Debi Day's personal Facebook page.  One would think that the leader of an "animal advocacy group" whose mission was to end shelter killing in our shelters would be discussing implementation strategies.  That was not the case.

Classy conversation between Maria and Roxy Hurlburt in December 2012,  Hurlburt is the in house accountant used by No Kill Nation to prepare the books.  Note No Kill Nation board member Kathie Santomero "likes" this vile discussion.
Camille Loge is a long time No Kill Nation supporter who is also part of Day's team used to stalk and disrupt any opposition..  This picture was hijacked off my Facebook page and used to disparage two of our senior rescue hounds.  For a person claiming to be an animal advocate to attack and malign a shelter dog survivor is disgusting.  For that attack to happen on the leader of No Kill Nation's Facebook page is far too telling on her lack leadership skills.

In a discussion with several of Day's friends allegation of drug trafficking was inferred.  Those allegations are completely false and highly libelous.  The fact that both Debi Day and Maria Venuto inferred that they were factual is character assassination at its best.  Brenda Steele is ignorant in her comments as well. 
First, I am not a rescuer nor do I run a rescue organization.  I retired from the rescue community in 2010.  I run a small senior sanctuary in which all of the hounds chosen are adopted from local kill shelters as personal pets.  In my now twelve years of running a "multiple pet household" there has never been an occasion where random inspections by animal control have lead to even a warning being issued let alone a citation.  To insinuate anything else is pure ignorant false conjecture.
Debi Day's "band of no kill" stalkers and thugs doesn't limit the maligning of advocates to this blogger.  Fact is, there is a whole list of people who are ridiculed by these small minded individuals like Maria for simply challenging No Kill Nation's mission.  What type of successful leader participates in such childish behavior?
The many faces of Lucy Van Pelt
Maria Venuto doesn't limit herself to just exercising her "creative" side on Facebook.  In fact, Maria has a number of alias creations that are next generation version of Lucy Van Pelt.  One such brainstorm is a partnership collaboration of No Kill Nation's Debi Day and Lucy in a Facebook page known as "Exposing the Truth about Crazy, Old, Busybodies Who Really Hate Animals.
Rest assured this group, commonly referred to as the "Purple Page" is unadulterated hate. The people that Maria targets with her rage are respectable pet owners who volunteer, foster and rescue shelter animals.  Often times Maria's obsession with spewing anger has talking to herself in a sick demented sad sort of way. When she answers those voices to an outsider mental instability comes to mind. 
In this post Maria rants about why Peta has not filed suit against her Lucy comic character by now.  Oddly, she also raises the issue why others who have been the target of her vile demeaning comments haven't filed a law suit either.
One thing is crystal clear - same old Lucy style vulgarities with spewed hated mixed in.
In a totally over the line post Maria not only attacks my crohn's disability but falsely insinuates welfare fraud.  What is truly ignorant is Maria's stance that attacking a senior citizens limited income on SSI that is used to keep a house and pay utilities for not only himself but twenty seven senior hounds who would have no where to go but a local kill shelter shows the total disconnect that has caused so many people to distance themselves from a false no kill movement.
You can't be "no kill" in your preaching when your actions show a deep desire to punish not only the person who disagrees with your thinking but their dogs as well.  That is deplorable and should outrage anyone who TRULY loves animals. 
What kind of a wicked personality can Maria have to wish so much evil on a person who actually runs a no kill sanctuary rather then just talk about it.

Once No Kill Nation's Debi Day started forming her alliances with hacker groups known as ANONYMOUS the threats grew even more absurd.  People don't get involved in animal advocacy to be threatened or to have their families or livelihoods threatened for disagreeing on aspects of shelter reform.  This is pure cyber bullying by a serial stalker who by very nature is nothing less than a mentally unstable thug. 
There has never been a successful movement in history where elements inside the movement attacked their other members who shared the same vision yet offered a different course of action to accomplish a shared goal. 
Successful movements are about bringing real change not stroking shattered ego's.  The "no kill" movement is a fake movement that is based on words alone.  Words don't bring about change - actions do.
So , who is to blame for this fragrant attempt at hijacking the shelter reform movement through threats and intimidation?
The "Purple Page" was set up in collaboration of two close friends - No Kill Nation's president Debi Day and serial stalker Maria Venuto.  The fact that determine this conclusion are not some wild guess but the words coming right from the horse's mouth. 
The information shared in this blog only represents a small portion of Maria's Facebook attacks.  It does not include the attacks she delivers on other social media venues include commenting on blogs in HUFF PO or a brand new social media called twitter.  In part two of the "Who is Lucy Van Pelt" story, the many twitter accounts set up by Maria used to attack the "haters" of no kill will be explored as well.
The no kill movement can not survive with all the divisive infighting WITHIN our ranks. The leadership of the movement are remiss in understanding that if the message is NOT being accepted from within the ranks who share the same vision. how do these same leaders expect to convince the power players and political figures who oppose change that the vision is noble?

The movements massive internal bickering has become the focus for the movements direction with opposing views unable to understand the concept of compromising on shared values and respectfully articulating the opposing views.
Without that ability to communicate respectfully social movements like no kill will fail.  We are better than that.  We don't articulate the hate that Debi and Maria are obsessed with.  Isn't it time we all share the same love and compassion our animals friends would be proud of?

It's time for a little, peace, love and understanding.





Sunday, July 14, 2013

Just a Battle of Words

This No Kill Nation vs Drats case evolved over my demands that No Kill Nation disclose how the $100,000 donated to the Everglades Project in the fall of 2011 was actually being spent.

Rather than disclose that accounting NKN's leader Day instead hired a law firm Tripp Scott to file a civil law suit for the comments listed on these two pages.

Compare the context of my statements, many of which were posted on my personal Face book page, with the comments leveled against me personally. Ironically it would be one year, or in mid November of 2012 that NKN finally released their version of Everglades accounting.

Line items for an administrative fee of $5,646 on donations earmarked for rescue with only $872 paid out to "My Animals Rock" which is rescue group that had been helping Mirta for years. 

Regardless off the numbers on payments to various vet offices the cost per animal rescued would have been substantially less had this rescue operation partnered with Miami Dade Animal Services. 

Sadly, because No Kill Nation insisted on controlling the rescue operation based on available resources.  Many dogs got left behind that could have had a safe place to sleep at the county shelter.

Note: Amy Roman Restucci took over the Abandoned Dogs of the Everglades in February of 2012.  She is now paying herself a $50,000 salary and driving a new BMW - all thanks to donor dollars.  No Kill nation paid ex show breeder Karolyn Rico a $41,000 salary or more than Ingrid Newkirk for who knows what job responsibility she had.  Charity fraud?  You be the judge.

This one area was were No Kill Nation and I disagree on.  With the hatred that No Kill Nation and their leaders had towards shelters and the animal protection community this much needed help was simply ignored.

The accounting was only released in November of 2012 one week after a "Permanent Injunction" was issued ordered me to take down numerous Drats Blogs and just about any reference I may have made that mentions No Kill Nation on Facebook as well.

The arrogance of deceit kept more animals from being saved.  More numbers that are just numbers considering how long it took No Kill Nation's two accountants to put this together. 

Balanced Paws has a business relationship with NKN's leader Debi Day.  The payout of $3,000 was for boarding and training of a dog rescued from the Everglades named Pierre.  There has been no clear explanation as to what happened to Pierre after or if he left the control of Balanced Paws.

Fourteen months in boarding is an awful long time for any dog but to take a dog found living in the wild and make no attempt to find a suitable foster is simply irresponsible.

Still, while No Kill Nation admits they are not a rescue group they have repeatedly attacked my work here running a no kill sanctuary for senior hounds that I started in late 2002.  I have never fostered a dog in boarding.

While NKN's Amy Restucci was much too busy to foster Pierre herself, or simply clueless on fostering, she did have time to take her whole "100+ Abandoned Dogs" team to Key West for some rest and relaxation. 


 I never realized how emotionally stressful rescue is in south Florida.  Most rescuers I know spend their evenings cleaning cages, playing with their fosters and trying to figure out how your going to pay for all those fosters living by your feet.  Not Amy, relieved of the boring responsibility of teaching fosters to trust again she unwinds with a night out with the girls at her favorite pub.

Yet, Amy has on numerous occasions called me irresponsible and a hoarder.  I guess you can't be a hoarder as long as you dump your rescues in boarding and get someone else to pick up the tab.

Once I first starting nosing around on issues related to No Kill Nations involvement in the Everglades Project including the relationships with NKN employees Kathy Santomero, Amy Restucci, Maggie Rodriquez and Camille Loge the rhetoric directed towards me became increasingly hostile.

Who is Kathy Santomero?  Kathy was one of the major fundraisers for the Everglades Project.  She did such a wonderful job No Kill Nation promoted her to the board of directors.  Kathy is also a woman of many words.

In addition to her skills in fundraising Kathy is well versed in espionage.  One would think a group devoted to ending shelter killing in our nations shelters would have board members focused on bringing about that change.

The sad thing is I am not that difficult to spy on.  My Face book page is open to the public, all my blogs are not only open but allow un moderated comments - something that is unheard of in the no kill movement.

If you can't defend your vision by communicating why your vision is better than anything else then you don't have a vision.

While Kathy talks a good story about being compassionate with those who suffer from chronic illness her actions tell an entirely different story.  Was it compassionate to sign an affidavit swearing under oath that 150 plus of the Drats blogs were "lies and defamatory" towards NKN when many of the topics discussed in those blogs covered item like puppy mills, Nathan Winograd (who is NOT NKN), CAPA laws, Rick Berman and the like.  Either Kathy has extremely poor reading comprehension skills or she deliberately filed a false document with the court.

Why would she do that?  In her own words - it's about the music.

Yes, Kathy IGNORANT PEOPLE can be so cruel.

Despite all this hateful rhetoric I complied with the court order that resulted from Santomero's false affidavit used in court to secure a permanent injunction.  Over 150 blogs were deleted, including dozens of educational blogs written months before the Everglades even became an NKN project.

All my older comments on Facebook were blocked by simply changing settings preventing anyone from accessing old posts,  A court order to Google deleted over 150 of my blogs including the blogs on puppy mills, Nathan Winograd, Rick Berman, CAPA, Mike Fry and even more incredibly blogs written about my hounds.

In fact, the order was so extensive that two blogs I wrote for first amendment clarification called "Amused to Death" and "My Back Pages" containing nothing more than lyrics to songs that had been around for decades.

Yet, NKN's board member K Santomero swore under oath that all of these blogs were "lies and defamatory" towards NKN.

That was part of my issue with the permanent injunction. What landed me in hot water was when NKN's attorney demanded that all "future writing" on the NKN be included as well.

Clearly, No Kill Nation's leader nor her friends were going to adjust the tone of words they choose to post.  Words of hate became the battle call of a war of words that entangled anyone who dared voice an opposing viewpoint on No Kill Nation's vision or agenda.

Despite demands from Debi Day's attorney that I not be allowed to comment at all on anything related to Debi or her organization those same guidelines obviously didn't apply to her. 

People were attacked with vile comments by both Debi and her friend Maria Venuto (who posts by the alias Lucy Von Pelt) for simply being friends.  I have only known Hilda Mueller for a very short two years.  Hilda is one of the kindest, compassionate person I have had the honor to meet.  The hateful, vile attacks that were directed at Hilda and her family became very personal to me.

I have never had the honor to meet Mary Lundberg but I do know in watching her work she is a friend to shelter animals.

What kind of leader of a national animal advocacy group threatens people and what kind of leader allows her friends to post the most vile comments about a person imaginable?  Mary works tirelessly taking pictures of shelter dogs at MDAS hoping to find that one person who might save a life.  Debi Day and her NKN friends are much too consumed with their war of hate to be bothered.

This is school yard behavior - Debi Day can not be trusted to act like an adult.  This "no kill" movement - if there is a movement - will never survive as long as it is run by children who only have hatred in their hearts.

Maybe someone can explain to me where this dialog fits in with implementing Nathan Winograd's "No Kill Equation"?  As an advocate for over a decade I have never seen such vile language.  For a leader of an advocacy group to not only include themselves in this discussion but to host these friends on her Facebook page should be disgusting to everyone who got into advocacy or rescue not to play school yard bully but to save lives of the four legged companions most of us love so dearly.

The truth is none of the vile comments above can be banned through the courts.  That would clearly be a violation of the first amendment.  The Supreme Court has ruled that "even defamatory speech" is protected under the first amendment.

Now as a practical application it would be ill advised to write things that can be proven defamatory like the comments I have just shared.  Those defamatory comments then could be subject to a lawsuit clarifying whether or not they were defamatory or not.
Debi Day has repeatedly claimed that the statements I've written on Facebook or this Drats blog were "ruled" defamatory after the court heard testimony was heard.  That is a blatant lie.  The court NEVER held evidence hearings on any of the statements listed in the original complaint No Kill Nation filed.  

The only hearings held were pretrial motion hearings.  I defaulted out of a court battle that would have cost me six figures in legal fees to defend.  Instead of wasting money on attorney's I chose to use my resources to pay for things like surgery and vet bills for the hounds.

In this country the super wealthy should never be able to "PURCHASE" public opinion.  The concept of the rich and affluent not only silencing my voice but, as Maria puts it "putting me in prison", is something that happens in third world countries but not in the United States of America.

I know many have told me to walk away but walking away from defending the right to free speech would be an insult to all of our brave soldiers who paid the ultimate price for my freedom and yours too - that is simply something I will not do.

Saturday, May 25, 2013

The disgruntled ever shrinking brain of no kill

It seems that the no kill nuts keep referring to just about everything written on this blog as being "lies and defamation" directed towards the "fearless" No Kill Nation's leader Debi Day.

Granted, after a long court battle that started off seeking transparency on money collected by No Kill Nation that morphed into a default judgment and what appeared to be some resolution on the financials of the Everglades Project.  No Kill Nation finally released an accounting on the Everglades Project close to a year later with most people who have followed the case thinking that the drama and nonsense and nonsense would end.

The court ordered "permanent injunction" does prohibit writing any future articles or blogs that referred to No Kill Nation and/or its agents as "scammers" or to insinuate in any mannerism that No Kill Nation was involved in charity fraud. 

While others are free analyze the financial connections surrounding No Kill Nation Drats is not nor will.

That being said there are other issues that demonstrate No Kill Nation's leadership failures that Drats can wrote about.  Those areas include the incompetent leadership coming from a small but vocal group that spends far more time attacking the animal protection community than focusing on building a grass roots movement that reforms our nations shelters.

One would think taking on the responsibility of assisting other shelter reform advocates with reforming their shelter would require a leadership team experienced in bringing about change and a group of skilled advocates capable of focusing in the task at hand - educating others on their own success in shelter reform.

But that hasn't been the case.  Instead No Kill Nation's leader Debi Day has become obsessed with seeking personal retribution directed at this writer.  That retribution includes seeking to have him jailed for refusing to sign an agreement not to comment on No Kill Nation at all.

As in all my writing I take the first amendment very seriously.  As we all reflect on the sacrifices our soldiers have made throughout generations it would be simply callous not to acknowledge that brave men and woman fought and died so that ALL Americans can live in a democracy where different opinions on political issues is a way of life. 

Free speech is part of the first amendment because our forefathers who wrote the constitution that it was that important.

We don't live in a society where the super wealthy can buy the silence of those who are not wealthy enough to defend frivolous law suits in a court system which seems to ignore the fact that these rights are part of our heritage.  In the coming weeks Drats will explore some of the comments posted by No Kill Nation's leader and her minion followers who seem confused over the concept of what libel is or isn't.

These same confused minions keep insisting on proof on the issue this blog addresses so what better proof to offer but words right out of the children of the no kill korn's mouths themselves?

So, who are some of the ardent no kill followers working diligently in lowering our shelter kill numbers?  What are some of the intelligent discussions that the No Kill leader involves herself and her followers in?  Are they discussing problems with implementing the No Kill Equation when they gather behind Debi's blocked Face Book page? 

The above comment seems to have a whole lot of anger and misguided efforts directed at a writer that No Kill Nation's leader claims "no one listens too anyway".  Of course, since followers - "follow" it is not surprising that Allison (who one would think is looking for solutions to her home town high kill shelter in Fulton County Georgia) would be mesmerized by the tenacity of her fearless no kill leader hell bent of vengeance instead of saving lives. 

Most of us who have spent any time at all reading on the issues have by now been subjected to the vile mouth of a comic strip character better known in real life as Maria Venuto.  Lucy has become not only the mouth piece for no kill but a repulsive follower who has tarnished and painted this movement to being more about hatred than saving lives.

It is easy to see with her incredibly shrinking brain that has been pickled from years of alcohol abuse where Debi be confused by the stories on our now dog barking case in Gwinnett.

One thing that I have learned about Debi is she has no patience and becomes frustrated when her money can't buy her the salvation and the adoration she is seeking.  With her efforts to have me jailed taking far too long Debi decided to launch into personal attacks to show that the comments being shared on Drats can't be trusted.

While Debi would like people to think I am a hoarder who is irresponsible to not only my hounds but the community as well the article she references tells an entirely different story.

When faced with a bogus dog barking charge filed by a real estate agent only seeking to make a fast $50,000 flipping the house next door that included a demand that all of the hounds be surrendered at our then high kill shelter I refused.  Instead I waged a long hotly contested battle with the county that resulted in being sentenced to two years probation but being allowed to keep all the hounds. 

Most advocates including the no kill nuts who routinely malign me would have sought cover or even worse caved to a threat of facing twelve years in jail and paying $24,000 in fines for refusing to surrender the hounds I love.  I am NOT like most no kill advocates - instead, I drew that line in the sand and fought for not only my hounds but others who had been intimidated into surrendering their pets as well.

Further, as part of my probation stipulations I was prohibited from writing about the county law office, animal control or the "animal rights" attorney who prosecuted our case. 

I ignored those stipulations and instead launched into a campaign to rewrite our "draconian" dog barking law making sure that no other pet owner would ever be threatened with losing their dog or facing a jail term simply because they were accused of having a barking dog.

In the process of stepping on toes in the county law office and in ultimately succeeding in rewriting our dog barking law I was dragged into court seven times as the county sought to revoke my probation.  I was successful in all but the last court hearing where the judge sentenced me to thirty days in jail for again refusing to consider surrendering one of the hounds.

People inclined to draw their own conclusion on the plus twenty hounds who have shared my home for over twelve years now could simply visit our Facebook page where over 1,500 hundred photos have been shared.  Not many hoarders would go that route but I share the hounds to serve as an example of what wonderful companions shelter dogs can be.

While I prefer sharing stories and pictures of the hounds other find it more important to share stories about their drinking.  Debi Day claims to be a leader yet at age fifty three she still hasn't outgrown the desire to hang out in bars and try and find happiness in the bottom of a martini glass. 

I lead a much simpler, quiet life surrounded by the hounds I love.  Holding up a bar stool and telling complete strangers how famous you are as the leader of a No Kill Nation is simply a lame attempt at validating an otherwise useless existence. 

Debi won't find the solutions to solving the problems of pet overpopulation in Broward County by being a bar fly.  If it makes her feel manly then so be it but she might want to simply grow up and face her demons in a much more productive way then drinking herself into a stupor every night.

There is nothing funny about orchestrating personal attacks on people or issues that Debi is completely ignorant about.  Her actions show an immaturity that prevents her from leading anything let alone a serious movement reforming our nation's animal shelters.

Advocacy isn't child's play.  That alone is the reason why neither Debi nor her "No Kill Nation will ever accomplish anything but be an embarrassment to an advocacy community that deserves the mature knowledgeable leadership needed to forge ahead saving the lives our nation's homeless pets. 

Love Drats

Wednesday, May 22, 2013

Even breeder rats will abandon a sinking ship

While “Drats” is new to the advocacy community as a writer I am not.  Years ago I spent a considerable portion  of my time on many of the "breeder forums and yahoo groups including Patti Strand’s “NAIA”, Walt Hutchens many “PetLaw” groups and some high volume breeder forums out of Missouri.

For the most part these groups were not real friendly with those “animal rights” nuts who were out to make sure pet were extinct.  To participate on these groups you definitely had to check any anti breeder bias at the door.  Needless to say that’s easier said than done so I was frequently booted off these boards only to come back later with a new alias and a new persona as well.

I have to say that participating in these group discussions enlightened me on a number of issues.  Some of my views on responsible breeding and responsible pet ownership comes from more conservative thinking that some members (who were breeders) offered, including Walt Hutchens himself.  Yet, some of my opinions were only verified with the extreme thinking that went against any premise I had allowing support for high volume breeding or that companion pets should be a commodity to be used for purely financial motivations.

I’ve never considered myself part of any real group or movement.  Instead, I arrive at opinions I’m comfortable with as an advocate for change and as a pet owner.

Enter the Nathan Winograd inspired “No Kill” movement.  Its troubling that the movement’s leadership lacks the honesty and integrity needed for serious shelter reform.  Instead, early on Winograd sold out to the breeder interests with his mantra of pet overpopulation being a myth and the hawkish battle he has waged with the animal protection community.’

I do not share his views on either of those two areas.  It remains my position that the animal protection community is fighting the same battle as advocates seeking to not only put an end to shelter killing but more importantly trying to curtail the suffering many animals are exposed to at the hands of those who would exploit them for profit.

Drats wrote of Winograd’s involvement with Rick Berman and his Center for Consumer Freedom.  Winograd’s explanation was that Berman contacted him and he agreed to an interview.  He has also repeatedly claimed that this interview does not mean he supports Berman in any way.  Do you think people would be outraged if Dr King granted an interview with the leader of an oppressor group like the Klue Klux Klan to simply help promote his book?

There is no redemption in sitting down with the devil, a man responsible for exploiting the suffering of people and their companion friends, using him to promote the sale of your books to breeders.  It’s simply blood money flowing from the hands of the exploiters to your bank account.

That Drats blog was removed along with a number of other blogs written about Winograd and puppy mills under a permanent injunction granted to No Kill Nation.  No Kill Nation’s leader Debi Day filed for an injunction over allegations that her group No Kill Nation refused to report how it spent over $100,000 in donations collected under its “100+ Abandoned Dogs in the Everglades Project” in the fall of 2011.

It has also been highly suspect that any leader of a self described advocacy group would have spent close to $100,000 in legal fees when a far simpler solution would have been to just share an accounting on how the money was spent.  What other ulterior motive would have?  Read on.

Drats wrote a blog which discussed the financial support Nathan Winograd received in accepting cash from a Texas breeder support group called the Responsible Pet Owners Alliance (RPOA).  Winograd has repeated denied or refused to discuss this allegation.  Yet, on his own No Kill Advocacy letterhead he welcomes RPOA as one of the sponsors for his conference.

While the amount of money that transferred hands is not mentioned the puppy mill business operates much like a Mexican drug cartel where huge amounts of cash is involved.  Payoffs and protection are part of remaining profitable, regulations and government oversight are not.

That cash used to help sponsor bringing Winograd to Houston for the 2009 No Kill Conference was funneled through Bett Sundermyer’s group No Kill Houston.

"No Kill Houston has NO family ties to puppy mills. There is a huge difference in raising a litter of puppies in your home, and a puppy mill" - Bett Sundermyer 

That might be true but there is also a big difference between a breeder who raises a littter of puppies in their home and a breeder who maintains a kennel with several breeds of dogs and advertises those puppies for sale as a commercial breeder.  In fact, records show the family business involved in breeding several  breeds of small “toy” puppies in Houston for decades. Vivian ran/runs a kennel called Machree in Houston and has operated under the names Shiloh Partie Nursery or Shiloh Kennels as well.  According to sources this breeding kennel has been around for twenty plus years.

The family owning a breeding business is clear.  What isn’t clear is why Bett Sundermyer continues to deny this as fact and instead has launched an attack on directed towards my business interests.  My business interests, including those legal interests in Houston DO NOT involve exploiting the sale of puppies in an area with a history of pet overpopulation.

Bett Sundermyer is listed as founder and President of No Kill Houston while Vivian sits on the board as well.  While No Kill Houston’s support for RPOA is distasteful its opposition to the Texas Humane Legislation Network is beyond the pale.  THLN supported last years effort to pass much needed reform regulations that provide reasonable standards for “puppy mils” yet No Kill Houston was silent in opposition.  It is simply disingenuous to not divulge your connections to the breeding industry while taking positions that oppose reform of those same breeder groups.

RPOA has been around longer than I and have opposed puppy mill legislature for over a decade as well.  Mary Beth’s group is NOT a friend to the millions of dogs who have suffered though the years living in squalor conditions supported by the weak laws in Texas that allowed the abuse to continue.

Taking money from the RPOA laundered through No Kill Houston doesn’t cleanse the blood of dogs who suffered or died from the weak laws in Texas that should have protected them.  It is no wonder why self proclaimed advocacy groups like No Kill Houston were silent in supporting the recently passed Texas version of puppy mill reform – HB 1451.  Drats wrote about HB 1451’sa passing as well  That too was removed for being defamatory against No Kill Nation.

The third strike against Winograd’s real motives and support was a blog written which pointed out Nathan’s participation in giving a no kill presentation at an AKC sponsored dog show in Long Beach California.  What follows is a face book discussion with several breeders I have had the pleasure meeting through the years.  It is one thing for me to write about these breeder connections to Winograd’s No Kill movement but an entirely different eye opening experience when breeders confirm what I have just stated.

But, as you’ll see – even the breeder rats are jumping ship. I’ve highlighted the names of those commenting and key make it easier to read.

Jackie Kensler
Yesterday at 3:19am (October 28, 2012)

LanCo shelter goes "no kill," critics say growing trend harms pets

My AKC fed, the Florida Association of Kennel Clubs, just came out in opposition to No Kill and I believe their reasons were similar to this. Maybe it's time to rethink No Kill. Perhaps we've not understood it as well as we thought?

Candace Ware True "No Kill Equation" shelters (Winograd's plan) remain open admission. There are 50 communities doing it that way and they are reportedly killing less than 10% of their total intake, and the euthanasia they do perform is justified by aggression, age, health, etc.

Unfortunately, there are shelters out there calling themselves "No Kill" but not following the entire equation. The most common example of this, as far as I can see, are shelters that are *not* open-admission shelters. If, when they go no-kill, a shelter starts "cherry picking" only the most marketable animals -- then they are not technically "No Kill" as outlined by Winograd. They are just shifting the problem elsewhere; not solving it.

I have no personal opinion on whether it works, or how well, as I try not to opine on things unless I have actual hands-on experience with them. But according to what I have read, there are a few dozen communities operating in accordance with Winograd's guidelines and it appears they are making it work.

Didi Culp The shelter where I work does not have to euthanize dogs for space. We don't call ourselves "NK" because every case is arguable. For example, a dog that kills chickens may be adoptable and definitely would not have to be put down if he had an owner or trainer who did not need him to live with chickens. But in a shelter we are comparing him to dogs that have never killed anything. (For the record we did find a great home for a White GSD who kills chickens. 5 years later, still good).

Jackie Kensler omg probably most BTs would kill chickens...

Jackie Kensler Candace Ware some NK shelters do under the table deals w/other shelters and fudge on their numbers.. Regardless, the name is being perverted so there's nk confusion that apparently can cause big problems.

Jackie Kensler and Candace Ware the NK Equation says other things that they don't even try to live up to as evidenced by NW's recent blog where he advocates for the extinction of the breeds. When I think of the effect that is going to have on his followers who read that and recognize his full endorsement of the absolute end to breeding it is clear nk is drawing a line in the sand that can't be misinterpretted; there is no more pretense. Stand by for a tsunami of breeder hate. This guy was at a dog show speaking to breeders and selling his book, and now he is saying, oh, the joke's on you--I never cared about your breeds and I never cared about you. You were just someone to use to promote my name. He is saying very plainly that tho he stands by his claim that shelter over-pop is a myth which absolves breeders from being the cause of overall problems, he's decided they must make the sacrifice anyway and stop all breeding so no one can acquire a dog any other way but adoption--and it's obvious this must happen either by force legally, or by continuing to campaign against them so no one buys from them--you have to be thick as a brick not to get that message. And if the breeds die which they will that is no skin off his nose--he won't shed a tear he says--since they hold no value whatsoever to him and dogs would all be healthier if they were mutts. ...really...nw bite me...hard..

Candace Ware If that is what he was saying then I can see why you'd be upset. I would be too. Totally. But that's a lot to draw from what I read. I'll have to go back and read it again. I sort oof got the impression he was only saying that to counter people who thought he was overly supporting of breeders. Like he was getting flack from the AR/vegan contingent about not going after breeders. It struck me as a reaction to that, not a declaration that he and No Kill would henceforth advocate for the extinction of breeds.

Candace Ware That whole "mutts are healthier" thing has been debunked, I thought.

Jackie Kensler there is no thinking about it...he's being an ass and he knows it. all he cares about his having another blog under his belt that makes someone out to be the evil antagonist so he can be Mary Poppins. Do you actually think he's that angry when he sits down to write those things? He's have dropped over from a heart attack by now or his stomach would look like swiss cheese. He's calculating and creating his WWF scenarios to keep his market stimulated and they love that stuff. He prolly goes home, has a steak dinner and whelps a litter of puppies...he's a phony...

Jackie Kensler either way he's very calculating and he's using breeders as a pawn. he can kiss it...

Jackie Kensler yes that's exactly what he did. He got accused of being soft on breeders so he said..oh yeah? Watch how soft I am..come here breeders, now stand there while I kick the s**t out of you for everyone to see. They're not going to accuse me of being soft. And just to underscore it...I'll come right out and deliver the ultimate message about how hard I can be...I'll kill your children. Now see how soft I am? See how I can destroy someone and if I ever get my hands on whoever threatened my dog this is what I will do to you. I get totally what he's saying.

Jackie Kensler he can't really touch the people who came after him after DAC (Douglas Anthony Cooper) stirred them up, so he's grabbed the easiest target and used them as example of his prowess. He's gone though his history of breeder-hate reminding them of all of the blows he's delivered and he's bragging about his ultimate manliness in bashing the AKC in his book. How dare you say I'm a breeder-lover..have you forgotten the size of my set? Well if you have, I'll illustrate for you...I'll perform a public flogging these breeders won't forget and neither will'll never accuse me of being soft again. And if you do, I'll have this on record to prove you are, here's my stand in case there is any confusion. To hell with the breeds and to hell with all the breeders. My take---he suffered a Narcissistic Injury and this is what narcissists do to recover---they find someone to flog...someone must pay. This ensures they maintain their image and if it's being feared that's as good as being loved, as long as they're on top. He's the only one who's exhaulted. I've been saying for a long time I thought he was a narcissist and he's falling right in line. That statement proves to me beyond any question whatsoever---he has no empathy...what he said was as cold as ice. Anyone who can't see that has not read that blog, doesn't care that he said what he said or isn't paying very close attention, figures he runs his mouth anyway so it doesn't matter, or wants to play over it so his image won't be sullied b/c they don't want to admit maybe supporting him isn't all that smart...AR is AR and he's as AR as they bloody come.

Jackie Kensler Candace Ware -- It might be that personally deep down inside he doesn't have a problem with some's hard to tell. What he is in reality and what he is in his blogs don't have to be the same thing--it's like writing pulp fiction. He has to keep a story line going and he knows exactly the elements to throw into it by now b/c that's what keeps him in business. He's a salesman and he wakes up every morning unemployed. He has to stimulate donations, sell books and I imagine get contracts and those blogs are his primary marketing tool. He attracts $ and he grows his following to do his work for him--he clones himself. He's either just a cut-throat who figures all's fair--don't take it personally--or he's the genuine article, really wants to wipe out breeding and just like HSUS will toy with them whenever it's useful knowing he'll cut their hearts out eventually--they are totally objectified and he pulls them in and pushes them away however it suits him. But the thing is, what he says affects legislation and the people he's using as pawns are playing for keeps. He can just keep on truckin' if he loses...but when we lose, we lose it for good. And notice he uses "the term" 13 times in that blog--it's the only way he refers to breeders at all--it's like machine gun fire. Accident.....yeah right. He's working up his audience so by the time he finishes off the beating with the climax they are right there with him--who needs breeds anyway...death to the selfish shallow breeders and death to their stupid, unhealthy, worthless breeds. But the breeders will overlook it b/c well if you don't support him you're stuck w/the stigma of turning your back on suffering. I'd better say I support no kill or what does that say about me? Well...things are not so cut and dried here and maybe the truth is coming out about that, too. It does not in any way put anyone on the side of HSUS and ASPCA as I'm sure he would have it believed--it's not hi-kill or no-kill and you don't have to choose. Specifically for the reason you said; it's possible to achieve the same goal w/o promoting his brand. I recently heard reference to something called "save more"---I like that name a lot. Doesn't that describe it with much more accuracy and ... surprise--it does not contain the obligatory AR emotive language with the built in guilt trip.

Didi Culp I am not in favor of new laws in this climate. Making fair decisions in a polarized lobbying arena is impossible. Euthanasia, by definition, is only possible when an animal is dying. Period. Spending tax dollars for the humane slaughter of companion animals with issues is a problem in these economic times. Suffering or warehousing living creatures is also not a solution. The belief industry has co-opted all these concerns which draws people who don't care a whit about the issues. They just see the money pile. In the end it's good people who need their money and their companion animals who will be separated from both. ARGH.

Lynn Turriff I would like to know exactly who these 'experts' are, and
where they get their information.

We have been blindsided all too often by people who are
accorded 'expert' status, only to discover that they are
strong AR advocates, if not outright extremists.

I do find this a little disturbing:

"The league said it will try to accommodate as many animals
that it can and that creating a "no-kill" community will
require "strong licensing laws, spay/neuter initiatives and
animal control programs" on the local, county and state

Why not *enforce* the leash laws they have? Is there
another flurry of restrictive ordinances in the pipeline?
The simplest solution to most of the few problems that do
exist is to enforce existing least and abuse laws, not to
impose more. Why will they 'try to accomodate' ..? True
no-kill is open admission.

This doesn't sound like Winograd's no-kill at all, it
sounds like a 'we can prove this won't work' effort.

So .. it kind of seems they are playing both ends against
the middle. Two different AR influenced groups disputing
territory. And .. guess who loses

Jackie Kensler
Friday at 4:13am (October 26, 2012)

Their true colors aren't the only ones showing here. This is the true Nathan and he's cloning himself daily. How can anyone who loves the breeds allign themselves with this? What is he capable of doing if he's capable of even saying it? There has to be a way to support shelter reform without getting behind someone like this.

"I bashed the AKC in Redemption. And I believe that though dogs are not dying because of pet overpopulation, they are still dying. And as long as that is true, I believe people should adopt from a rescue or shelter. I also could not care less about maintaining breeds and never have. As far as I am concerned, if all dogs become all-mutt, that would be fine with me and probably healthier for the dogs. I’m a Heinz 57 man myself."    Nathan Winograd

Jay Kitchener Makes no sense. Not logical. Mixed breeds come from pure breeds. Can't have one without the other. (sigh)

Jackie Kensler he's a lying sob and he's a total b'tard. He's filling those ppl full of garbage and he knows it. He's equating the worst of the worst w/pet shops and telling those ppl those breeders aren't regulated. he's a damned liar

Anke Masters I am pretty fed up with the compartmentalizing. Just because they coined a catchy name for it does not mean that many people have not worked for shelter animals prior to them. Just because some big money showed up and pushed HSUS, does not mean, there weren't lots of people fighting HSUS long before. We have been rescuing long before 'rescue' became the new business model and war cry, we have been pushing shelters long before W.N. showed up and we have been educating folks about HSUS long before HW was created. AARRGG I do not begrudge them their success - how can I - however, N.W. throwing breeders under the bus, DAC throwing HWers under the bus to maintain and justify the 'purity' of their souls or whatever ..... in my mind proves the lack of purity in their hearts. Do it for the cause, the good, quit bragging about it and you don't have to smack down others. Anybody bragging about their good deeds does not hold much credence in my book.

Jackie Kensler this guy is sick

Thomas Kirby In one of his earlier blog posts he mentioned conditions under which the HSUS could redeem itself. Trouble is, sincere or not, if the HSUS can redeem itself under certain conditions, it can pretend that those conditions were met. It can also then evade bent held accountable for its crimes, for which its executives should spend a lot of time in jail for. It can run out the statute of limitations by delaying the reckoning then its victims will still be hurt and they will be unable to be prosecuted.

Jackie Kensler he doesn't care about the breeds....well he is creating a whole lot of other idiots who are not going to care about he breeds either. He is devaluing everything we value and teaching that. And peopel will listne..especially young ppl and they are impressionable. he is dangerous and he should not be supported. That's sick and he even says thehy're not ressonsible for over pop.He just doesn't want them breeding anyway. he wants it that way.

Anke Masters but bottom line is, that we could unite and be a power as well. It's not his fault that our side can't get it together and insists on being snooty. I am over-simplifying of course, but we are free to create a fighting force as well. We have many good groups fighting but it's not N.W.'s fault that we can't get much traction. That's on US!!

Jackie Kensler true but Im' not going to promote his shit. he can bite me

Jackie Kensler everybody needs to see what he said...everybody needs to know the truth. This guy is stark raving mad

Jackie Kensler DAC wrote an article about him...he makes him sound like such a normal person. No veganism, no AR, and no hint that he doesn't give a shit if every breed disappears. Well I think people have a right to know that. Now DAC says Bermam isn't transparent??? That Nathan is up kill is honest? Well DAC was not very honest. He hid some very improtant info..namely that this guy is a snap case....he's bats**t crazy and he should not be responsible for the laws and rules of our society i.e. our shelters.

Jackie Kensler he is not to be trusted

Jackie Kensler he shouldn't be anywhere near a shelter

Thomas Kirby "Our side" has trouble getting out of the starting gates because some of us still give away power. I can explain the psychological mechanism in great detail. The people who are giving us trouble do not deserve to "regulate, not ban" and they don't deserve to hear "we're not saying that any idiot should own a tiger."

It's awful hard to start out in a leaky rowboat that some people insist on drilling holes in. They also bash on people who want to patch those holes. Not as much, but this is improving too slowly.

Jackie Kensler you do realize when you push no kill you're simply pimping for him. when a shelter decides to do it they hire him as a consultant. that's what it's all about. well Im not pimping for this ahole anymore. he wants to destroy breeders and he wants to destroy breeds. F him!!! no breeder should be support that ever. period,.

Anke Masters I doubt he would, He's vegan after all LOL

Jackie Kensler any breeder who supports no kill is just plain stupid

Anke Masters no-kill as his movement, sure. Breeders against needless shelter killings, hardly.

Thomas Kirby Not stupid. It can take a little time to peel off this mask.

Jackie Kensler Anke Masters ya know, that's the kind thing that's such a no -brainer it should not have to be said. It's insulting for it not to be implied as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who couldn't ascertain that isn't worth sending a message. What else could it mean?

Anke Masters it might be insulting to you but there are plenty of people who dont get it.

Jackie Kensler there are other ways to support shelter reform and shelter reform doesn't mean kill more. There are shelters who have done it without him. Not every shelter is the hell he makes them out to be; that works for him, just like it works to make breeders out as non-human. non-human. not worth caring about; not of value; not deserving of anything they value. insignificant and if you check this post where it is in another place, apparently not deserving of honesty either. Just another sly marketing dawg...anyone who thinks other wise is in lala land. and I'm glad I said it before this blog came out because it's been bugging me for quite some time--since last December at least.

Jackie Kensler I don't care I don't care. I really really don't care...

Jackie Kensler that's like saying hi, btw I'm human. If it's not someone who can pick it up in conversation or ask, then if they don't get that they aren't going to get anything else. I get it..that's all that matters to me.

Thomas Kirby His methods are the kind that work on smart people.

Jackie Kensler i just lost electricity just like that poof!

Jackie Kensler i love what you said about compartmentalizing, Anke Masters. That was brilliant. Well, this is my page, and I figure if folks on my page can't figure it out...that's another problem. I'm not going to assume anyone's stupidity for them. They're going to have to step up and claim it :) It doesn't need correcting. It's not a question. Correcting it for anybody demeans me as a human....not you specifically, but just anybody. That's the kind of thing I don't want corrected.

Thomas Kirby Getting tired, angry, and frustrated can give you a chance to gain a stronger perspective on this and stronger resolve.

Jackie Kensler what do you mean Thomas Kirby about his methods?

Thomas Kirby Jackie, I think that you are working through a few things and coming to a greater understanding. The things that you are understanding better will piss you off. I don't know how many times I've had to say that I simply can't believe this BS and that this BS rules. The reason that it rules is because the BSers have a motive to lord it over other people. You and I have our plates full trying to live our lives and we don't have a motive to get over on others, other than self-defense. Maybe that's where some of the BSers come from too, they simply broke after trying to be decent people and getting worked over.

Jackie Kensler ok Thomas Kirby -- make sure you read the blog and what I pulled out up in the status, and then read this.

Here's what I'm seeing. I've thought for a long time NW was probably a narcissist. if you've read any of Malignant Self-Love, it talks about th...See More

Thomas Kirby The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more and no less.

I haven't put that one together like you have. I did figure that he was setting it up so that we would associate his program with the beating that the HSUS and the ASPCA need. If he becomes enough of an icon he can sway people to thinking that the HSUS and ASPCA need to be corrected, rather than totally obliterated and all executives jailed.

Winograd has worse than his ego to protect. He has a program to protect.

Thomas Kirby You might think of it as a controlled descent. The ASPCA has done it before. They might still be aware that they get stripped of their power when they get too big for their britches eventually, and right now it looks like they bid fair not only to kill the golden goose, but to nuke the entire farm and salt it with cobalt-60. This is the result of a generation of narcissist ASPD (anti-social personality disorder) types that don't even have the sense to let what they harvest grow back, and to actually clear-cut and fail to re-plant. Their own fathers are going to want them dead. If they are "redeemed" ten years from now they will be taking "credit" for restoring our freedoms and the environment.

Note - There you have it.  Drats has been peeling away that mask for years.  People are finally starting to open their eyes and listen.